Discussion:
Installing from software RAID0?
Chris Adams
2003-11-12 21:18:01 UTC
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I tried to install from local hard drives that are configured with
software RAID0, and it didn't work. Should I bother to bugzilla this,
or is this just too far into "don't do that" land?
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Chris Adams <***@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
Sam Varshavchik
2003-11-13 00:52:56 UTC
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Post by Chris Adams
I tried to install from local hard drives that are configured with
software RAID0, and it didn't work. Should I bother to bugzilla this,
or is this just too far into "don't do that" land?
I doubt that the stripped installer kernel includes RAID support, so this
looks like a “don't do that” deal to me.

/me looks lovingly at the box with the Adaptec SCSI raid card, that's
currently looking for a new home

Chris Adams
2003-11-13 01:06:32 UTC
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Post by Sam Varshavchik
Post by Chris Adams
I tried to install from local hard drives that are configured with
software RAID0, and it didn't work. Should I bother to bugzilla this,
or is this just too far into "don't do that" land?
I doubt that the stripped installer kernel includes RAID support, so this
looks like a “don't do that” deal to me.
The installer kernel definately includes RAID support, since you can
install to RAID (and have been able to for years).
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Chris Adams <***@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
Jeremy Katz
2003-11-13 16:13:30 UTC
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Post by Chris Adams
I tried to install from local hard drives that are configured with
software RAID0, and it didn't work. Should I bother to bugzilla this,
or is this just too far into "don't do that" land?
Due to space limitations, you can only do hard drive installs from
things that are simple (ie raw hard drives, ext[23] or vfat
filesystems).

Cheers,

Jeremy
Chris Adams
2003-11-13 16:21:13 UTC
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Post by Jeremy Katz
Due to space limitations, you can only do hard drive installs from
things that are simple (ie raw hard drives, ext[23] or vfat
filesystems).
I guess you mean space limitations in the first stage installer (since
the second stage does know RAID and can scan them for existing
installations)?

It has been mentioned as a possiblity that floppy boot may go away
because the kernel won't fit (due to ACPI). With a CD boot, the first
stage could be larger (and presumably smarter); any chance of support
for more complex hard drive installs then?
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Chris Adams <***@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
Jeremy Katz
2003-11-13 16:32:55 UTC
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Post by Chris Adams
Post by Jeremy Katz
Due to space limitations, you can only do hard drive installs from
things that are simple (ie raw hard drives, ext[23] or vfat
filesystems).
I guess you mean space limitations in the first stage installer (since
the second stage does know RAID and can scan them for existing
installations)?
Correct.
Post by Chris Adams
It has been mentioned as a possiblity that floppy boot may go away
because the kernel won't fit (due to ACPI). With a CD boot, the first
stage could be larger (and presumably smarter); any chance of support
for more complex hard drive installs then?
Maybe. It's not high on my list of things to consider, though, as hard
drive installs are very uncommon from all the data that I have.

Cheers,

Jeremy
Chris Adams
2003-11-13 17:17:48 UTC
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Post by Jeremy Katz
Post by Chris Adams
It has been mentioned as a possiblity that floppy boot may go away
because the kernel won't fit (due to ACPI). With a CD boot, the first
stage could be larger (and presumably smarter); any chance of support
for more complex hard drive installs then?
Maybe. It's not high on my list of things to consider, though, as hard
drive installs are very uncommon from all the data that I have.
But how am I supposed to upgrade my mirror? :-)

I didn't think about the fact that the second stage hasn't (and
obviously can't have) started at this point. That does make it harder
for little gain.

The NOC is a half mile from the office, and I had to go back down the
street to burn CDs - it was a good thing I'd already copied FC1 to my
workstation, as the mirror OS drive was dead (for anyone trying to use
mirror.hiwaay.net, it'll go down again for a bit shortly - I've got a
different set of drives to use for the OS, so I need to re-install, and
it has a slooow CD-ROM drive).
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Chris Adams <***@hiwaay.net>
Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services
I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble.
Alexandre Oliva
2003-11-13 17:30:56 UTC
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Post by Jeremy Katz
Maybe. It's not high on my list of things to consider, though, as hard
drive installs are very uncommon from all the data that I have.
Perhaps this is in part caused by the inability to do it. I, for one,
would do most of my installs from hard disk if it supported RAID and
LVM.
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