Discussion:
mod_frontpage packaging
Shekhar
2003-11-03 17:00:56 UTC
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We use mod_frontpage for package apache for our RH servers. It is
already been included in Mandrake. I wonder can we [fedora] include this
as part for distro. If it can be included I would put this request
alongwith the package download URLs on fedora [.us?] site.
New version of this module can be used as a DSO.
TIA,
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shekhar
Michael K. Johnson
2003-11-03 21:01:11 UTC
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Post by Shekhar
We use mod_frontpage for package apache for our RH servers. It is
already been included in Mandrake. I wonder can we [fedora] include this
as part for distro. If it can be included I would put this request
alongwith the package download URLs on fedora [.us?] site.
New version of this module can be used as a DSO.
A couple of thoughts...

o Is "Frontpage" a trademark?

o A google search on mod_frontpage shows several reimplementations
and lots of security issues as the main hits...

The first might be an issue for fedora.us (we want to be careful about
legality); the second is more an issue of taste and might keep it out
of Fedora Core even if it went into extras, from a concern for security
standpoint.

michaelkjohnson

"He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book."
Linux Application Development -- Ben Franklin
http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/
Stan Bubrouski
2003-11-03 21:15:31 UTC
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Post by Michael K. Johnson
A couple of thoughts...
o Is "Frontpage" a trademark?
o A google search on mod_frontpage shows several reimplementations
and lots of security issues as the main hits...
The first might be an issue for fedora.us (we want to be careful about
legality); the second is more an issue of taste and might keep it out
of Fedora Core even if it went into extras, from a concern for security
standpoint.
michaelkjohnson
Beyond this, is there even a need for it?

Link to Frontpage trademark:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=p46ru3.3.3

-sb
Michael K. Johnson
2003-11-04 12:43:29 UTC
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Post by Stan Bubrouski
Beyond this, is there even a need for it?
When I queried Mark Cox about this, he pointed out that the
authoring tools that use mod_frontpage can now also use DAV,
and suggested that just using DAV is by far the right answer
here.

michaelkjohnson

"He that composes himself is wiser than he that composes a book."
Linux Application Development -- Ben Franklin
http://people.redhat.com/johnsonm/lad/

Shekhar
2003-11-04 09:18:42 UTC
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Comment inline.
Post by Michael K. Johnson
Post by Shekhar
We use mod_frontpage for package apache for our RH servers. It is
already been included in Mandrake. I wonder can we [fedora] include this
as part for distro. If it can be included I would put this request
alongwith the package download URLs on fedora [.us?] site.
New version of this module can be used as a DSO.
A couple of thoughts...
o Is "Frontpage" a trademark?
Link to Frontpage trademark:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=3Ddoc&state=3Dp46ru3.3.3
Somebody really need to check but afaik frontpage extensions are
redistributable.
Post by Michael K. Johnson
o A google search on mod_frontpage shows several reimplementations
and lots of security issues as the main hits...
The main issue with frontpage was there was a need to recompile / patch
apache to support frontpage. But now MIcrosoft has released
frontpage2002sr1.1 which does not have this issue. It can be used as a
DSO now. I belive that the old security issues are now absolute.
Post by Michael K. Johnson
Post by Shekhar
The first might be an issue for fedora.us (we want to be careful about
legality); the second is more an issue of taste and might keep it out
of Fedora Core even if it went into extras, from a concern for security
standpoint.
It ok even its in extras.
Post by Michael K. Johnson
Beyond this, is there even a need for it?
I guess there is.
1. Madrake includes it.
2. Most if not all web hosting service providers support frontpage.
3. Lot of web developers actually use frontpage to author site while the
sites actually r on apache server.

Personally I dont like it much though I guess above reasons r
sufficient.
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