OpenOffice i18n pack.

[Erçin EKER]

Hi all,

Isn't it better to provide i18n files in seperate packages
(OOo-1.1.0-i18n-tr_TR.rpm for turkish) instead of one huge, space killer
pack? in Mandrake it's so and i think its better.

[Hugo Cisneiros]

Post by Erçin EKER
Hi all,
Isn't it better to provide i18n files in seperate packages
(OOo-1.1.0-i18n-tr_TR.rpm for turkish) instead of one huge, space killer
pack? in Mandrake it's so and i think its better.

I agree with that, mainly because users may want to install one or two
language on their system, but sometimes they end with lots of unusued
language files filling up their space.

[]'s
Hugo

[Jakub Jelinek]

Post by Hugo Cisneiros

Post by Erçin EKER
Hi all,
Isn't it better to provide i18n files in seperate packages
(OOo-1.1.0-i18n-tr_TR.rpm for turkish) instead of one huge, space killer
pack? in Mandrake it's so and i think its better.

I agree with that, mainly because users may want to install one or two
language on their system, but sometimes they end with lots of unusued
language files filling up their space.

The files are marked with %lang() (similarly to e.g. glibc-common locales).
If you are too concerned about disk space, you can just select different
languages instead of all in rpm configuration (e.g. override
%_install_langs in ~/.rpmmacros).
Older RH distributions used to do that, I think since RHL9 the default
is all, since the confusion it created (people installing say en and de
language support only and then wondering why they cannot use italian)
overweighted the disk space savings for average disk sizes these days.

Jakub

[Erçin EKER]

Sun, 9 Nov 2003 09:53:12 -0500 tarihinde

Post by Jakub Jelinek
The files are marked with %lang() (similarly to e.g. glibc-common
locales). If you are too concerned about disk space, you can just
select different languages instead of all in rpm configuration (e.g.
override%_install_langs in ~/.rpmmacros).
Older RH distributions used to do that, I think since RHL9 the default
is all, since the confusion it created (people installing say en and
de language support only and then wondering why they cannot use
italian) overweighted the disk space savings for average disk sizes
these days.
Jakub

On MDK locales thats going to be installed is sellected automaticly, for
example if i am using turkish for installation turkish locales are
installed by default.


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Post by Jakub Jelinek
The files are marked with %lang() (similarly to e.g. glibc-common locales).
If you are too concerned about disk space, you can just select different
languages instead of all in rpm configuration (e.g. override
%_install_langs in ~/.rpmmacros).
Older RH distributions used to do that, I think since RHL9 the default
is all, since the confusion it created (people installing say en and de
language support only and then wondering why they cannot use italian)
overweighted the disk space savings for average disk sizes these days.

Yeah, and that is easy and intuitive.

js

[Ralf Corsepius]

Post by Jakub Jelinek

Post by Hugo Cisneiros

Post by Erçin EKER
Hi all,
Isn't it better to provide i18n files in seperate packages
(OOo-1.1.0-i18n-tr_TR.rpm for turkish) instead of one huge, space killer
pack? in Mandrake it's so and i think its better.

I agree with that, mainly because users may want to install one or two
language on their system, but sometimes they end with lots of unusued
language files filling up their space.

The files are marked with %lang() (similarly to e.g. glibc-common locales).
If you are too concerned about disk space, you can just select different
languages instead of all in rpm configuration (e.g. override
%_install_langs in ~/.rpmmacros).
Older RH distributions used to do that, I think since RHL9 the default
is all, since the confusion it created (people installing say en and de
language support only and then wondering why they cannot use italian)
overweighted the disk space savings for average disk sizes these days.

I don't like this approach ;)

Anyway, for modem users the diskspace isn't the actual problem. It's the
size of the openoffice.org tarballs allocating bandwidth and producing
phone costs.
Remember, Fedora can be installed selectively via yum/apt from a distant
server, which can help modem users save a lot of bandwidth/money.

Ralf

[Jakub Jelinek]

Post by Ralf Corsepius
Anyway, for modem users the diskspace isn't the actual problem. It's the
size of the openoffice.org tarballs allocating bandwidth and producing
phone costs.
Remember, Fedora can be installed selectively via yum/apt from a distant
server, which can help modem users save a lot of bandwidth/money.

E.g. with glibc-common, separating the rpm into smaller rpms per locale is
a bad idea, since locales which can be hardlinked (e.g. lots of UTF-8
locales use identical (and quite big) LC_CTYPE and/or LC_COLLATE) suddenly
cannot be and thus eat way more disk space.

Jakub